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stz · Jul 20, 2005, 07:25 PM // 19:25

Hello everyone,

I, myself have the same problem as most of you have (i assume that the poeple who will be reading this will have an intel video card). In this "tutorial", you might find some stuff that might get usefull.

So before i start, i would like to advise you that i have gathered this information all over the net. I will try to edit/update this tutorial as much as possible, but for now, here's the version 0.01, some gathered text that i will be editing shortly.

"Tutorial" For the Crappy Video Cards aka intergrated intel cards
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OK, I have a Toshiba Satellite A45-S121 with an (Un)Extreme Graphics 852 display and 512 MB sytem RAM. I was having tons of problems with my inventory screen, and after a lot of note taking here in the forums I applied a few fixes, and after about 5 hours of play time haven't had a single problem! Here's what I think fixed it, hopefully it helps everyone else who shares in my woes.

1) Go to http://drivers.softpedia.com/progDo...nload-8679.html and get the 6.14.10.3943 driver, and install it. (Posted by Knight Hound... thanks!)

2) Go to the advanced display settings for your adapter and edit the 3D settings. Change the memory footprint setting to "High" (it's probably at "Normal" right now). Apparently this forces the driver to constantly reserve the maximum amount of memory it could need. My guess is that the system was low on memory and trying to swap video RAM or something, who knows.

3) Go to the "troubleshooting" tab on the advanced display dialog. Move the slider down a notch. This setting I might try putting back tonight to see what happens, since I'm not sure what this accomplished. All I know is that it worked, so I'm including it. Steps 2 and 3 were provided by WonderDog, thank you!!

Lastly I installed DirectX 9.0c. Thanks a million Knight Hound and WonderDog, you have freed me from the dungeon that is my basement and allowed me to take my addiction anywhere!! ;-)

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First, let me say how new I am and excited to be playing Guild Wars, and I come to you with a fix to a common problem

I'm sure all you prospective buyers (who, like me, have Dell Dimension 2400's [there are a LOT of us]) are wondering whether your system can handle Guild Wars, and hearing the nightmarish bug stories has made you kinda scared to buy this game. Well, I am here to put your fears to rest

My computer (after an upgrade) has 768 MB of DDR RAM and Intel Extreme Integrated Graphics 2, an unworthy substitute for a nicer video card. I wasn't keen to chunk out 130$ for a new card, though, so I gave the game a shot

IT RUNS FINE WITH INTEL EXTREME GRAPHICS CHIPSETS, but only as long as you have enough RAM for your system (I'd spend the money if you don't have a good bit of RAM like I did before my upgrade). One of the first problems I ran in to while playing, however, was dealing with some ialmnrt5, and I feared I would have to buy a new video card after all.

I tried upgrading my drivers, but that only eased the problem a little. The game would still mess up almost everytime I tried to slide items around my inventory.

Then I read a suggestion to download an older version of the drivers for the chipset, and I did. I haven't had any trouble since!

Of course, this is all at the lowest setting, and the game runs (and looks, in my eyes) perfectly fine.

Intel® 82845G Graphics Controller

This is the driver version I upgraded to in attempt to fix that didn't help very much

14.10.0.4020

So I rolled back the driver version to this one (running a search for intel extreme 6.14.10.3889)
6.14.10.3889

I haven't had much trouble since, save for a little lag in very detailed areas.

I hope I helped ease your mind, my fellow lowend system users!

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GuildWars does not support most of the Intel Mother Boards, espically 82845G on-board. I found this fourm post and applied it to my Dell 2.4Ghz, 1gb ram, On-board 82845G video card laptop and it works. This may also work on some of the other 828xxG on-board video's.

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http://www.guild-hall.net/forum/showthread.php?t=17362
From Poster: Vladd_Drac
On: 06-05-2005, 09:24 AM

Ok i Just got contacted by support saying the the 82845G integrated graphics is not supported. So we can pretty much say with all honesty that NCsoft does not plan to make a patch for us.

However I was able to work out some kind of fix.

first of all download this great tool called 3danalyze http://www.3dfxzone.it/dir/tools/emutnl.htm
(this is also useful for SOME of the next gen games if you can't get them to run or install on your outdated machine)

Now have it open your GW .exe and check these boxes

http://www.ixtlanstudios.com/webimages/GW.jpg

I have spent many hours trying to get this to work and I have been testing this combo for about an hour with no prob. I can access inventories, and shops, select, etc without a crash.

I have noticed a few artifacts show up (such as a green square next to an NPC) but it is definately not severe, and I think we can live with it. Also on one occasion I got a wierd blacking out of an area on my screen. If this happens, just exit GW and reload.

Also if your text seems unclear, make sure to jump out of windowed mode in the options. For some reason 3danalyze will put the client in windowed mode (which it actually won't be, but it will say that it is). Once you put it back into resolution it clears up the aliasing.

Im hoping this fix will work for the 82856G guys as well, but i know it works for my 82845G, and im sure its probably the same hardware wise.

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I was getting nasty crashes 95% of the time when trying to drag and drop stuff in my invetory, and also when trying to re-allocate skills. It only seemed to go mental on my laptop when dragging overlay icons/sprites like the inventory items and skills, so after a bit of head scratching came up with this:-

1. Go to extreme graphics options - OpenGL.
Make sure memory footprint is set to "high" (this forces your card always to use 64mb of memory, rather than act dynamically, and is much more stable).

2. Go to your normal Display settings, then Settings, Advanced, Troubleshoot and drop the slider down one notch from the top (you can leave write combining on though). This troubleshooting setting is to troubleshoot issues with bitmap overlays (such as sprites, mouse pointers etc)... The area I had identified was causing my crashes.

Guildwars now runs flawlessly. I can drag, drop, and re-allocate skils to my hearts content. No crashes in the last 4 hours of stress test (compared to my usual 5 mins max!). Give it a bash and tell me how you get on!

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Hope this helps.. atleast someone o.o

P.S i will try to add credits in the next versions of this tut.

Nigy · Jul 26, 2005, 06:39 AM // 06:39

thank you thank you thankyou

i did the thing when you change the slider in the display settings, and it never crashes anymore, and it moves a tad smoother too (it wasnt real bad before i changed the resalution to the minimum)

although whereve i put my pointer, a moud of pixels act up and there are several other graphical deformities as well, BUT IT WORKS.

thank you

stz · Jul 26, 2005, 04:51 PM // 16:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nigy

thank you thank you thankyou

i did the thing when you change the slider in the display settings, and it never crashes anymore, and it moves a tad smoother too (it wasnt real bad before i changed the resalution to the minimum)

although whereve i put my pointer, a moud of pixels act up and there are several other graphical deformities as well, BUT IT WORKS.

thank you

No prob, i am gonna try to update it when i have the time

Farin · Sep 01, 2005, 07:53 PM // 19:53

I can play Gw on my main comp whenever i want. however, in my laptop i had this same problem. I did all those steps and it stopped crashing . Only think i cant do is sell, every single time i talk to the merchant it crashes.. not a big issue since i can just use my normal comp to sell but i'd be good if i could fix it. Anyone has had this problem?

thegame2009 · Sep 01, 2005, 11:11 PM // 23:11

2) Go to the advanced display settings for your adapter and edit the 3D settings. Change the memory footprint setting to "High" (it's probably at "Normal" right now). Apparently this forces the driver to constantly reserve the maximum amount of memory it could need. My guess is that the system was low on memory and trying to swap video RAM or something, who knows.

Where is this?

Farin · Sep 04, 2005, 02:00 AM // 02:00

Control Pannel

Alias_X · Sep 06, 2005, 01:41 AM // 01:41

wow pretty helpful

delacroix21 · Sep 14, 2005, 10:37 PM // 22:37

After reading this entire article I am not sure which option I should follow since I didnt really fall into any of those catagories. I put GW on my computer and can make characters but as soon as I hit the "play" option my screen flickers and goes blue. I can hear the game dialogue (when starting) and hear the GW music but cant see anything I then get this error message:

[Windows-Display Driver Stopped Responding]
The ialmrnt5 display driver has stopped working normally. Save your work and reboot the system to restore full display functionality. The next time you reboot the machine a dialog will be displayed giving you a chance to upload data about this failure to Microsoft.

The screen is all wierd and when I restart the computer it never displays a dialog to send to Microsucks =(. I really want to play! I am so bored with WoW now (which works fine on my computer) and I really want to get into GW aside from just looking at screenshots and playing around with the character generator all day.

My computer is a Dell Optiplex GX270. It has a Pentium 4 and 2.8ghz speed and 512mgb of ram. I dont know much about computers but I know that I dont have the video card it asked for on the box. (it is a slim tower and cant take the NVida cards and such they sell at CompUSA).

Is there anything I can do to play? The character generator works fine, I just cant play the game!

EternalTempest · Sep 14, 2005, 11:23 PM // 23:23

Quote:

first of all download this great tool called 3danalyze http://www.3dfxzone.it/dir/tools/emutnl.htm
(this is also useful for SOME of the next gen games if you can't get them to run or install on your outdated machine)

Now have it open your GW .exe and check these boxes

http://www.ixtlanstudios.com/webimages/GW.jpg

Give this part a try, you have to actively use the program so you can give it a try and not worry that it will make any permanent changes to your system.

ialmrnt5 is part of the intel driver so I highly suspect you have intel integrated video (as part of your mother board).

delacroix21 · Sep 20, 2005, 02:14 AM // 02:14

I am happy to say that this is what worked for me!

I tried upgrading my drivers, but that only eased the problem a little. The game would still mess up almost everytime I tried to slide items around my inventory.

Then I read a suggestion to download an older version of the drivers for the chipset, and I did. I haven't had any trouble since!

Of course, this is all at the lowest setting, and the game runs (and looks, in my eyes) perfectly fine.

Intel® 82845G Graphics Controller

This is the driver version I upgraded to in attempt to fix that didn't help very much

14.10.0.4020

So I rolled back the driver version to this one (running a search for intel extreme 6.14.10.3889)
6.14.10.3889

I haven't had much trouble since, save for a little lag in very detailed areas.

I hope I helped ease your mind, my fellow lowend system users!

EternalTempest · Sep 21, 2005, 11:17 PM // 23:17

It makes GW playable with my laptop, I've used the instructions and GW can be played via wireless on my (845g) on board intel. It's not as no-where as pretty as my pc

but still great if your on the go.

Charr Killer · Sep 29, 2005, 11:11 AM // 11:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by thegame2009

2) Go to the advanced display settings for your adapter and edit the 3D settings. Change the memory footprint setting to "High" (it's probably at "Normal" right now). Apparently this forces the driver to constantly reserve the maximum amount of memory it could need. My guess is that the system was low on memory and trying to swap video RAM or something, who knows.

Where is this?

YEAH i cant find this either but it works fine now i think this last part may help becuz sometimes it runs quite slow.

TY VERY MUCH stz

Charr Killer · Oct 17, 2005, 11:17 AM // 11:17

bump becuz...

THIS IS THE BEST THREAD EVER FOR ME!

stoned bob · Oct 17, 2005, 03:14 PM // 15:14

im trying to run gw on my laptop with a s3 videocard :O but my charcters look all shiny and stuff:

any idea how to fix this ?
I know it runs horribly but just for fun I wanna have it run